At HCIL for the NeWS era of HyperTIES. The PostScript user interface and target classes, the FORTH markup interpreter and storyboard compiler, the C formatter, and the UniPress Emacs MockLisp authoring tool (YAHTITTIE). Pie menus in the browser and the editor.

Hacker News archive is the 2022 dump of the threads, split into articles.

Sun Founders Big Heads is his Educom floor story: he showed the popup to Steve Jobs and Bill Joy. Joy is one of those heads.